On Fri, May 20, 2022 at 9:08 PM Neal Gompa <ngompa13@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > On Fri, May 20, 2022 at 8:13 PM Owen Taylor <otaylor@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > For years, Red Hat Linux / Fedora systems have had a umask of 0002 for regular users as part of the "user private group" scheme [*]. Basically the idea is that you can set a directory group-sticky and use it as a common work area for a group of users. > > > > A change a couple of years ago seems to have partially changed this - the code in /etc/profile was removed with the idea that it should be controlled by pam_umask / login.defs instead. > > > > https://pagure.io/setup/c/102b349c39e196cc1e34e645c9310acdab7afeef?branch=master > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1722387 > > > > However, the corresponding code in /etc/bashrc was left .This means that for a *login* shell (VT, ssh session, etc.) the umask is 0022 but for an interactive *non-login* shell (e.g., gnome-terminal with default settings) the umask stayed 0002. > > > > I'm not sure how much the change from 0002 to 0022 was thought through - that idea first appears in https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1722387#c4 with Tomas Mraz saying: I do not think that the default umask should be 002 for regular users." - I would have expected a short change proposal, honestly. > > > > It seems like we need to do one of two things: > > > > - Go back to the old behavior, maybe by using the usergroups option to pam_umask and removing the code from /etc/bashrc > > - Or just go fully to 0022 by removing the code from /etc/bashrc. > > > > What do people think? If the current situation has lasted for several years, it clearly isn't *that* much of a concern to most people :-) > > > > - Owen > > > > [*] https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/fedora/latest/system-administrators-guide/basic-system-configuration/Managing_Users_and_Groups/#s2-users-groups-private-groups > > > > I think we should complete the transition to 0022 umask. IIRC, this is > how most Linux distributions have it work today, so we should fall in > line here, unless there's a compelling reason not to. This came up for me a few days ago. Some high security distributions elect to set the umask to '077' by default, typically though a setting in /etc/profile.d/, so that sharing with the group or with others requires specific steps. _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
