On Sat, May 14, 2022 at 11:40 AM Aurelien Bompard <abompard@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Hey folks!
After spending some time evaluating our options, CPE's Advance Reconnaissance Team came up with this proposal for the next version of FMN:
https://fedora-arc.readthedocs.io/en/latest/fmn/april2022/index.html
Please check it out if you're interested, it has an analysis of the existing system and requirements for the next.
And the best time for feedback is now, before the work actually starts :-)
One of the current issues that I don't see listed is that people receive notifications with empty or incomplete descriptions, and often it's not even possible why (which filter caused it and how to prevent it). For example:
~~~~
from: notifications@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
to: kparal@xxxxxxxxxx
subject: fedmsg notification # see that even the subject is generic
to: kparal@xxxxxxxxxx
subject: fedmsg notification # see that even the subject is generic
content:
Notification time stamped 2022-05-14 01:48:35 UTC
https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2022-af58cd6f88
https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2022-af58cd6f88
It doesn't say why I received the notification, what happened to that bodhi update, nothing. Of course in FMN settings I enabled:
"We can annotate your messages with a
"triggered by" link that will let you know which filter was
responsible for triggering each message."
but it doesn't work.
Here's another example:
~~~~
from: notifications@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
to: kparal@xxxxxxxxxx
subject: Fedora Notifications Digest (3 updates)
to: kparal@xxxxxxxxxx
subject: Fedora Notifications Digest (3 updates)
content:
Digest Summary:
1.
2.
3. Fedora EPEL 9 Update: testcloud-0.7.1-1.el9
1.
2.
3. Fedora EPEL 9 Update: testcloud-0.7.1-1.el9
~~~~
Very useful.
This one is my favorite:
~~~~
content:
Notification time stamped 2021-12-14 08:34:53 UTC
{
"certificate": "LS0tLS1CRUdJTiBDRVJUSUZJQ0FURS0tLS0tCk1JSUUyakNDQkVPZ0F3SUJBZ0lDQXBzd0RRWUpL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\nMDhmVHc9PQotLS0tLUVORCBDRVJUSUZJQ0FURS0tLS0tCg==\n",
"crypto": "x509",
"i": 2390172,
"msg": {
"bug": {
"alias": [],
"assigned_to": "kparal@xxxxxxxxxx",
"cc": [],
"cf_atomic": "",
"cf_category": "",
{
"certificate": "LS0tLS1CRUdJTiBDRVJUSUZJQ0FURS0tLS0tCk1JSUUyakNDQkVPZ0F3SUJBZ0lDQXBzd0RRWUpL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\nMDhmVHc9PQotLS0tLUVORCBDRVJUSUZJQ0FURS0tLS0tCg==\n",
"crypto": "x509",
"i": 2390172,
"msg": {
"bug": {
"alias": [],
"assigned_to": "kparal@xxxxxxxxxx",
"cc": [],
"cf_atomic": "",
"cf_category": "",
<snip>
~~~~
I love receiving json dumps.
Of course these are just examples I could quickly find. I don't need to debug them. I roughly know why I received them. But in the past, I sometimes received a notification that I really had zero idea why I got it. Also, I sometimes received a completely empty email, IIRC. The problem is, I believe, that FMN doesn't require the "event->human description" formatter to exist. If it does, it uses it, but if it doesn't, it sends you a blank email, a json dump, a bare link, whatever it finds in the raw event. That really shouldn't happen. I only kept FMN enabled because those emails are sufficiently rare (a few per week at max, I think) and the good notifications are useful.
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