Re: The future of FMN (Fedora Messaging Notifications)

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On Mon, Apr 25, 2022 at 9:49 PM Adam Williamson
<adamwill@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> On Fri, 2022-04-22 at 11:35 +0200, Miro Hrončok wrote:
> > On 22. 04. 22 9:16, Aurelien Bompard wrote:
> > > Hey folks!
> > >
> > > We're having a look at FMN these days, and we're trying to design its replacement in our Fedora Messaging enabled world.
> > > The current FMN has the following shortcomings:
> > > - too slow at runtime
> > > - slow at startup time (a couple of hours to startup…)
> > > - complex UI
> > >
> > > We think that this all comes from the same root cause: FMN is too flexible. It's trying to be everyone's procmail, and as a result the UI is complex and performance is hindered.
> > >
> > > Also, in the past years we've adopted quite a few external services (Discourse, Gitlab, etc) which come with their own notification systems, so the needs of FMN users may have changed, and FMN can no longer be the one-stop-shop of notifications it aimed to be.
> > >
> > > So we're planning to rewrite it as a much more simple notification system, with a few pre-defined things you could subscribe to, clearly presented in the UI but with less bells and whistles, and for that we're gathering your requirements.
> > >
> > > What do you want from Fedora's notifications? We have identified the following use cases:
> > > - I want to be notified of what happens on my artifacts (packages, containers, modules, flatpaks)
> > > - I want to be notified of what happens on any artifact by entering its type and its name
> > > - I want to be notified of events referring to my username
> > > - I want to be able to follow someone (for example, my mentee)
> > > - I want to be able to block or allow notifications from a particular application (koji, bodhi, dist-git, etc)
> > > - I want to my notifications to be sent via email and/or IRC
> > >
> > > Are there other use cases that would make your contributor's life easier?
> >
> > Groups. I want to be notified of what happens on group's artifacts, events
> > referring to the group's name.
>
> Replying to a reply because I can't find the original mail, sorry.
>
> I want to be easily able to *NOT* be notified of things I just did. In
> fact this should probably be the default. Right now my FMN
> notifications are floods of "adamwill did X to Y" - yes, I know, I just
> did it!

Exactly. I want to get notifications for events that are happening to
packages that I'm associated with
(either by being a (co-)maintainer, being a member of a co-maintainer
group, or by "watching" a package on dist-git)
that were *not* triggered by myself. For example:

- somebody else pushes a commit to the package on dist-git
- somebody else launches a koji build for the package
- somebody else submits an update containing the package to bodhi
- koschei notices that the package starts to be FTBFS
- somebody or something filed a bug against the package
- etc.

Fabio
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