On Mon, Apr 11, 2022 at 5:26 PM David Cantrell <dcantrell@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > This was already addressed. Fedora should not be expected to jump through > hoops to support vendors unwilling to participate in the open source Linux > ecosystem. Users should stop buying their hardware -or- contribute to > projects like nouveau to make this a non-issue. And while I agree with the overall sentiment that Linux should not hoop jump for others, the reality is that many desktop and laptop users use their corporate provided systems(*), and those systems are often not (at all) Linux friendly(**). Saying to those people "we feel your pain", while offering nothing else, is a a perfectly reasonable thing to do/say, but we should, at least, state it explicitly, should that be the direction we are going. Gary (*) Due to corporate purchasing decisions, I have more than once chosen to spend my own money to purchase laptops and desktop systems that can easily install/run Linux/Fedora. Not everyone realistically has that option, or will chose it even if they do have it (and sometimes corporate policy states you must use their pre-configured systems). (**) The number of organizations that believe in Linux first, first, and first, and purchase accordingly, is small. Last I knew RH itself allowed their staff to choose Mac's. Why? Do they, themselves, not believe in Linux first, first, and first? No, I don't expect a reasonable answer here, but if RH does not require Linux first, first, and first there should be no expectation that other organizations will do so. _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure