Re: F37 Change: Deprecate Legacy BIOS (System-Wide Change proposal)

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On 4/7/22 14:51, Jared Dominguez wrote:
On Thu, Apr 7, 2022 at 3:49 PM Samuel Sieb <samuel@xxxxxxxx <mailto:samuel@xxxxxxxx>> wrote:

    On 4/7/22 08:02, Jared Dominguez wrote:
     > This is a proposal. Nothing has changed yet. The choice is now
    whether
     > to go forward with it or come together with a cohesive
     > alternative, including one of the two listed in the proposal. But we
     > need a solution that accounts for the existing maintainers not
    having
     > capacity to continue maintaining legacy code. I've seen responses
    from

    I haven't yet seen a clear answer about what code is "rotting" and
    which
    legacy code is too hard to maintain.  Is there something actually
    broken
    right now?


For one, syslinux hasn't seen an update in 3 years and a release in 7 years, and it has outstanding bugs. Legacy boot isn't where grub2 is getting development attention. The current maintainers in Fedora won't have capacity to continue maintaining legacy boot support in Fedora. As grub2 continues to be developed for UEFI systems (ARMv8-9 and x86-64, not to mention non-UEFI ppc64le and s390x), there is added risk of regressions on legacy x86 boot that won't be getting developer attention.

I don't understand why we're still using syslinux instead of grub for legacy boots, especially since I think now you can use the same grub.cfg file for both. There is always a risk of regressions, but if there is no current problem, then why is there this push to obsolete a lot of active hardware? This is not comparable to the 32-bit removal where it was only a few really old systems. This is going to affect decent systems that are less than 10 years old. I have a work HP laptop from 2012 that has "experimental" EFI support that really doesn't work well and possibly a newer one as well, but I can't check it right now.
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