On Sun, Mar 13, 2022 at 4:45 PM Peter Boy <pboy@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > I just checked installation of qemu-kvm & libvirt & virt-install on a Fedora Server Edition, that is a headless server. It installed 338 packages / 158 mb including poppler, mesa, wayland, libX11, gtk3, cairo and a lot of additional graphic related software. > > I’m wondering, why I need Wayland or X11 etc for kernel virtualization and running virtual machines? It turns my headless server into a graphical workstation. It installs software that I don't need for running a headless server, and don't want there. > qemu-kvm installs the full graphical virtualization stack. You want qemu-kvm-core to get a subset without the graphical UI. Those libraries are required for the QEMU GUI to work, which people *do* use. It also allows QEMU to work properly as an X11/Wayland client app in a desktop environment. > If I install the same combo on a Debian / Ubuntu headless Server it installs about 40 packages / 20 mb. I know, the packages are not the same, but Debian/Ubunt doesn’t need X11, poppler, mesa, etc. for virtualization on a headless server. Can't we do the same? > By default, Debian does the same thing. The qemu-system-x86 package recommends the qemu-system-gui package, which pulls in that stuff. This is not "dependency hell". "Dependency hell" is a *very* specific thing, and this isn't it. -- 真実はいつも一つ!/ Always, there's only one truth! _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure