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#fedora-meeting: ELN SIG 2022-03-11
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Meeting started by sgallagh at 17:00:13 UTC. The full logs are available
at
https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2022-03-11/eln.2022-03-11-17.00.log.html
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Meeting summary
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* Init Process (sgallagh, 17:00:13)
* Status Report (sgallagh, 17:04:18)
* Composes are timing out and failing, but we did get a good one on
Mar. 9 (sgallagh, 17:06:12)
* ELN SIG spoke to the Fedora Council yesterday, see recording at
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCnIfca4LPFVn8-FjpPVc1ow when
available (sgallagh, 17:08:29)
* ELN-Extras is in progress, but slow going due to other commitments.
Reviews requested for
https://gitlab.com/redhat/centos-stream/ci-cd/distrosync/distrobuildsync/-/merge_requests/37
(sgallagh, 17:11:45)
* x86_64-v3 (sgallagh, 17:13:54)
* ACTION: sgallagh to discuss the impact of x86_64-v3 on RHEL for Edge
with RHEL Pgm (sgallagh, 17:54:10)
* Important points raised: v3 was not universally available until
2017, which means existing hardware may need replacement to run
(sgallagh, 17:55:20)
* non-AVX2 hardware is still in production, and widely deployed in
long-lifecycle environments (emdedded/pos/appliances/etc.) that
could be impacted by this change (dcavalca, 17:55:30)
* Concerns about ISV and integrator cases for x86_64-v3 for RHEL.
Would prefer to see us look into supporting multiple flavors for
x86_64 in parallel like done in the past with ppc64 with p7 and
x86_32 with i586 and i686 (Eighth_Doctor, 17:55:34)
* Edge devices frequently use low-power Intel chips such as Atom and
many (most?) don't have v3 support (sgallagh, 17:55:47)
* Increasing the baseline will lead to smaller code (both in less disk
space and higher efficiency) (sgallagh, 17:56:47)
* On the other hand, multiple builds in the OS do not clean the pipes
for ISVs, which would have to deliver multiple builds as well to
avoid support issues. (fweimer, 17:56:51)
* The guaranteed availability of AVX2 extensions would benefit
high-performance computing, particularly machine-learning.
(sgallagh, 17:57:20)
* OpenMandriva has an implementation of x86_64 flavors we can use as a
basis to understand implementing a similar system for supporting
x86_64-vX levels in parallel. (Eighth_Doctor, 17:58:32)
Meeting ended at 18:03:44 UTC.
Action Items
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* sgallagh to discuss the impact of x86_64-v3 on RHEL for Edge with RHEL
Pgm
Action Items, by person
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* sgallagh
* sgallagh to discuss the impact of x86_64-v3 on RHEL for Edge with
RHEL Pgm
* **UNASSIGNED**
* (none)
People Present (lines said)
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* Eighth_Doctor (66)
* sgallagh (59)
* fweimer (37)
* jforbes (29)
* dcavalca (24)
* zodbot (11)
* cyberpear (2)
* Conan_Kudo (0)
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