Re: RHEL moving to issues.redhat.com only long term

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On Fri, Mar 11, 2022 at 01:52:53PM +0000, Peter Robinson wrote:
> > On Thu, Mar 10, 2022 at 9:45 AM Colin Walters <walters@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > Long term if Bugzilla slowly morphs into only being used by Fedora,
> > > personally I'd prefer to have bugs/issues in gitlab instead.
> >
> > Yes, I personally think gitlab.com would be a good replacement for
> > src.fedoraproject.org and bugzilla.redhat.com.
> 
> I disagree as the interface for agile development like sprints, kanban
> and other team tools is rudimentary at best and really not suitable
> for anything more than the basics and is not a patch on the
> functionality and plugin ecosystem that is available in Jira. The
> gitlab functionality there is a toy in comparison.

The comparison is reasonable, but I would ask if support for things
like sprints, kanban, etc is actually important for Fedora's bug
reporting needs ? Personally I can't see that it is given the way
I see that maintainers work in Fedora in an adhoc way, usually
independantly, and light on any formally required processes or
bureaucracy.

When I look at how we've evolved & used Bugzilla over the years
for RHEL, I feel like much of the unpleasantness has been because
we've tried to take a bug tracking tool, and bend it into being
a project management tool. Thankfully Fedora kept its use of
bugzilla simple, and didn't try to make it apply specific dev
practices/workflows.

IOW to me the appeal of the git forge bug trackers is precisely
that they are very simple, to both reporters and maintainers.
They may not be suitable for RHEL, but they feel like a decent
fit for Fedora.

IMHO if there are times when some group of Fedora maintainers is
closely collaborating and wants to use agile dev practice, it
ought to be possible to use a separate tool for those tasks,
linking to the bug tracker if & when relevant.

With regards,
Daniel
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