On Fri, 2022-03-11 at 13:52 +0000, Peter Robinson wrote: > > On Thu, Mar 10, 2022 at 9:45 AM Colin Walters <walters@xxxxxxxxxx> > > wrote: > > > Long term if Bugzilla slowly morphs into only being used by > > > Fedora, > > > personally I'd prefer to have bugs/issues in gitlab instead. > > > > Yes, I personally think gitlab.com would be a good replacement for > > src.fedoraproject.org and bugzilla.redhat.com. > > I disagree as the interface for agile development like sprints, > kanban > and other team tools is rudimentary at best and really not suitable > for anything more than the basics and is not a patch on the > functionality and plugin ecosystem that is available in Jira. The > gitlab functionality there is a toy in comparison. Peter, Bugzilla has no support for any sprints or kanban at all, so I do not see how this is relevant. Unless your claim is that Fedora absolutely needs a sprint/kanban based organizational tool which would surprise me. I personally do not think Fedora should tie itself to Red Hat's Jira. For community oriented development Jira is simply not a great tool IMO, because it is built with a "traditional" organization in mind, not for community use. Keeping it simple is actually an existential requirement for Fedora where we have so many drive-by volunteers. Complex on-boarding becomes quickly an impenetrable barrier to participation. This is another reason I think common forges issue systems, while limited are a better fit for community issue reporting than either Bugzilla or Jira, because they are simple and immediately available. You can easily write automation to pull in/mirror issues into your own Jira projects if that's what you use for work and feel the need for, IMO. And just to be clear I am both a *heavy* Jira and Bugzilla user (including writing automation for both and other stuff via bots) for work, so I think I can say I know what I am talking about. Simo. -- Simo Sorce RHEL Crypto Team Red Hat, Inc _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure