Re: Landing a larger-than-release change (distrusting SHA-1 signatures)

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On 3/9/22 08:52, Alexander Sosedkin wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 9, 2022 at 2:47 PM Richard W.M. Jones <rjones@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>> Previous tightening of crypto defaults caused problems with us
>> connecting to older ssh servers.
>>
>> I am particularly interested / worried about sshd from RHEL 5, 6 & 7
>> for virt-p2v and virt-v2v conversions.  This broke before, requiring
>> us to advise users to set the global policy for the machine to LEGACY
>> (thus ironically weakening crypto for everything).
>>
>> Also I have some ancient network equipment that cannot be upgraded but
>> needs older ssh protocols.  I can't connect to it from Fedora unless I
>> set the crypto policy to LEGACY.
>>
>> Anyway I'm wondering if the SHA-1 change will impact ssh further?
> 
> IIRC, the only SHA-1 thing that should be left in DEFAULT for SSH
> is SHA-1 as HMAC, which doesn't rely on collision resistance.
> So, not this round.

SHA-1 HMAC is still considered to be a perfectly good MAC.  For new
protocols, I recommend using Blake2b instead, but that is purely for
performance reasons, not because HMAC-SHA-1 is broken.  There are no
known attacks on HMAC-SHA-1, and it is actually stronger than AES-128
in CBC-MAC (160 bits of security vs. 128).

-- 
Sincerely,
Demi Marie Obenour (she/her/hers)

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