On Sun, 2005-06-26 at 20:19, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: > On Sun, 2005-06-26 at 21:48 +0200, Ralf Ertzinger wrote: > > On Sun, Jun 26, 2005 at 12:35:39PM -0700, OmniUni wrote: > > > > > My idea is not so much about making a 2 CD version of Fedora Core as it is > > > about putting together a light linux distro that has many of the benefits of > > > Fedora Core, including compatability, anaconda, bluecurve where possible, > > > system-config-* utilities, and a fast release cycle. > > > > Of course you are free to do that, there may even be people here > > interested in that and willing to help. > > > > You just can not call it "Fedora Core <something>". > > > What kind of requirements might there be to calling it Fedora Lite? IANAL, but in every discussion I've had with people inside and outside of Red Hat, the assumption is that if it meets the Fedora contribution guidelines (i.e., 100% free and/or open source software) then you can call it Fedora Whatever as long as it doesn't step on anybody's toes. Now, calling something Fedora Core Whatever steps on Fedora Core, so that's a no-no. But IMHO, Fedora Live and Fedora Mini are two great names just waiting to become stand-alone distributions of the Fedora family. (Fedora Live would be something that boots as a Live CD and has the property that once booted, there is some /trivial/ way to say "Go ahead--make my day" and transform the live instance into a Fedora Core installation. Fedora Mini sounds like what you are trying to do: establish some minimal set of packages that can provide a decent experience in limited size environments. Again, it would be a bonus feature if there was a non-conflicting way of "updating" Fedora Mini to become Fedora Core plus some Fedora Extras packages. I think that having packages in Mini that are not in Extras would lead to all sorts of pain.) > In > one of the many proposals before Fedora Extras came out, there was the > idea that alternate and associated distributions could be spun out of > the FC+FE combination. That's not an official goal right now, but it > seems it's possible (and desirous to some :-) to do. Agreed. > Open questions: > - What infrastructure beyond the existing would these other respinnings > of Fedora need? See above...I think that anything that makes it natural to get to Fedora Core for any installation that is missing Core packages is one good design characteristic. The second, and perhaps more important is that any purpose-specific set of packages be composed of packages that are represented in Extras. If Fedora Foo has packages not in Extras, then it's a bit like working w/o regard to upstream. Since so much of Fedora is designed around a process of working with upstream, breaking the link to Extras is likely to break other things when you (or your users) least expect it. > - What communications with current FE and FC packagers? If Fedora Whatever is just a special combo of Extras + Core, then not a whole lot of special communication is needed--just pay attention to what's upstream and make clear how you are trying to make your combination of requirements work using whatever composition of packages you need. > - Are we willing to "bless" some with Fedora XXX names? Under what > conditions? It's up to the Steering Committee, but I would certainly lobby for this. I would really like to see Fedora GIS (a rich GRASS-based environment with all the bells and whistles of Postgis, R, Java, etc), Fedora 3D (a rich Blender-based environment with all sorts of rendering, scripting, paint, image processing, gphoto, and other tools), and a Fedora AV (a rich environment for audio synthesis, sequencing, editing, mixing, publishing, plus video import, editing, compositing, publishing, all 100% open source based around...what?). M > -Toshio > > ______________________________________________________________________ > -- > fedora-devel-list mailing list > fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list