On Sat, 2005-06-25 at 00:04 +0100, Mike Hearn wrote: [snip] > Please, save the usual replies. I know some here think any packages not > used within the distribution should be dropped. I know some don't care > about games (even the open source ones). I don't want to hear it - > Fedora is not the universe, and if it wishes to be taken seriously should > not pretend to be. Let me get this straight. You post your usual complaint about Fedora Core making it difficult for proprietary apps and open source developers who don't want to package their apps as rpms and submit them to *some* yum repo (or set up their own), and then don't want to hear the usually response? Yup, you're absolutely right. Fedora is NOT the universe. And anyone who expects Fedora to take the universe into consideration is going to be profoundly disappointed. I, for one, prefer Fedora to move forward, getting rid of old, crufty compat-* packages giving low priority to those who don't want to adapt their apps to Fedora's fast moving pace. *You* may not take Fedora seriously. I don't need backwards compat cruft for *me* to take it seriously. Even with being considered for the 'hobbyist, enthusiast, developer.' You want something that moves slower? Buy RHEL, or grab a copy of CentOS. Otherwise, take up the mantle and initiate the Fedora Compat project to scratch your own itch. You don't want to be beholden to Red Hat legal? Then don't call it that. -- -Paul Iadonisi Senior System Administrator Red Hat Certified Engineer / Local Linux Lobbyist Ever see a penguin fly? -- Try Linux. GPL all the way: Sell services, don't lease secrets -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list