Re: Cairo [was: rawhide report: 20050621 changes]

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On Sat, 2005-06-25 at 21:42 +0200, Nicolas Mailhot wrote:
> Le samedi 25 juin 2005 à 15:09 -0400, Colin Walters a écrit :
> > On Sat, 2005-06-25 at 20:49 +0200, Nicolas Mailhot wrote:
> > 
> > > It's kind of sad that the Gnome project chooses to piss off a great part
> > > of its users every release for stuff no one really cares about (except
> > > could we have some behaviour stability please) but all its grand plans
> > > still do not seem to include a working font setup.
> > 
> > Nicolas, this is *rawhide*.  It's under development.  There will be
> > bugs.  Flaming the developers does not help.  Reporting useful,
> > informative bugs in Bugzilla does.  
> 
> I know there are and will be bugs (after more than 7 years of rawhide
> desktop I think I know what to expect). However at some point in time
> rawhide was declared to be "dogfoodable". Font rendering is part of my
> small must-work private perimeter.

It's "dogfoodable" not "gourmet dinnerable". The fact that your fonts
are somewhat the wrong size is a not a drop-everything situation. 

And if it was? 

Well, actually, it was what I was working on this morning 
(Saturday morning), and I had the DPI setting working again on
my system before I saw your email.

It should be in Rawhide within the next week ... next time we push
new Cairo, Pango, and GTK+ snapshots.

> It's pretty sad that after Keith provided us a top-notch font subsystem
> app writers still to not take advantage of it properly. But somehow
> managing this properly is always pretty low on the todo list.
> 
> I'm starting to feel we'll be plagued by text rendering problems till
> it's made a release priority like UTF-8 was. Seems not sexy enough for
> people to fix it otherwise.

I don't think this debate is worth continuing further :-)

Regards,
					Owen


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