Re: F36 Change: Relocate RPM database to /usr (System-Wide Change proposal)

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On Mo, 03.01.22 11:57, Panu Matilainen (pmatilai@xxxxxxxxxx) wrote:

> On 12/30/21 09:02, Chris Murphy wrote:
> > On Wed, Dec 29, 2021 at 8:19 AM Tom Hughes via devel
> > <devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > >
> > > I don't see how this is FHS compliant, which in turn would make
> > > it non-compliant with Fedora Packaging Guidelines, namely:
> > >
> > >
> > > https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/packaging-guidelines/#_filesystem_layout
> > >
> > > The FHS describes /usr here:
> > >
> > >     https://refspecs.linuxfoundation.org/FHS_3.0/fhs/ch04.html#purpose18
> > >
> > > as "/usr is shareable, read-only data" which clearly does not
> > > apply to a database that changes.
> >
> > In practice it is read-only data, except when software is being
> > installed or updated. The FHS is a PITA sometimes, but it's not
> > advocating for systems that can't be updated or changed..
> >
>
> The rpmdb has traditionally been like that, but it doesn't mean it will stay
> that way forever more. There are all manner of currently unimplemented
> use-cases which would require changing the database outside a direct
> install/update/erase context. Many of those use-cases are related to files
> and would fall under "but you need writable fs for that anyway" but not all.
> Of course it'll always be *mostly* read-only data because of the nature of
> the data, compared to a general purpose db in /var.

Can you provide an example for such feature requests? i.e. where the
rpmdb should be writable even though /usr is assumed to be immutable?

Lennart

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