Re: F36 Change: DIGLIM (System-Wide Change proposal)

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On Tue, Dec 28, 2021 at 09:20:11AM -0600, Bruno Wolff III wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 28, 2021 at 14:45:59 +0100,
>  Kevin Kofler via devel <devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > 
> > But there is the inherent assumption there that the set of software released
> > by Fedora is identical to the set of software the user trusts. In practice,
> > those sets will, sure, be overlapping (non-disjoint), but still distinct
> > (non-identical). And I think they will differ sufficiently for it to be an
> > issue.
> 
> I can tell you, I trust icecat a lot more than I trust firefox. But even
> that isn't black and white. This proposal divides software into good and not
> good categories. That really doesn't match how I use software.

This seems to presume DIGLIM is the only mechanism available. Admins
running large fleets likely have other mechanisms that complement this,
e.g. selective sync of repos with unapproved software excluded,
enforcing minimum versions of packages to exclude versions known to have
security vulnerabilities, etc.

If/when something like this gets shipped, I hope Fedora limits itself to
shipping a policy that is the equivalent of SELinux's 'targeted' policy:
protect the RPMs that Fedora ships from being tampered with, let users
do whatever on top. With an option to turn it off completely or to
enforce more strictly.

Best regards,

-- 
Michel Alexandre Salim
profile: https://keyoxide.org/michel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

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