Daniel, The talk Eric Raymond gave at FUDCon 1 included information about a pet project of his called "shipper" which is addressed at automating all of steps 1..5. I have no idea if the script will work for you, but its existence shows that You Are Not Alone. M On Mon, 2005-06-20 at 17:18 -0400, Daniel Veillard wrote: > On Mon, Jun 20, 2005 at 07:02:45PM +0200, Bernd Bartmann wrote: > > Hi, > > > > yet again several updates have appeared for FC3/4 on the download > > mirrors, but some of them were never announced on > > fedora-announce-list. Even more confusing is that "Fedora Weekly News > > Issue #1" lists some of the missing announcements but not all. As FC4 > > is out now I've also created a bugzilla tracking bug for the missing > > announcements. So here is the list of what's currently missing: > > > gamin-0.1.1-1.FC4, released 2005-06-14, #161113 > [...] > > Can we please get this problem fixed once and for all if not for the > > older FC released but at least starting with FC4? > > Currently as a maintainer, pushing a fedora update I need > > step 1/ to build the update in the appropriate channel > step 2/ label it with an unique number > step 3/ ask and wait for it to be pushed > step 4/ once pushed use a very unconvenient script to > generate the boilerplate for the announcement > step 5/ mail the announcement > > 1/ 2/ and 3/ are under my control, I do them in batch, then there > is an asynchronous mechanism, and then after "some" time I need to do > the messy 4/ and 5/ steps. > > Concusion: > Being a lazy computer guy (remember it's a virtue) once 3/ is done > I tend to think I have done my part, the bits are out, and I don't > feel compelled at all to go to 4/ and 5/ > Moreover, getting bug reports about missing announcement just generate > frustration, I don't like pushing updates as a result, and if you > were among the ones who waited 3 months for a gamin official update > on FC3 between 0.0.25 and 0.1.1 you know why now, I just hate pushing > updates but the srpms are available on my home page. > > > Now if you want the reason why gamin-0.1.1 was pushed: > - on FC3 it fixes the zillion bugs present and found in 0.0.25 > - on FC4 it fixes the desktop update on dynamically mounted > USB media > > Writing this mail is way less painful than sending the real announcements. > If I hadn't the Damocles sword of those missing update bug reports, I would > probably push bug fixes faster. Whether I must be whipped for being lazy, > or the tool for pushing announcement need to be changed or missing announcement > should not be considered bugs, there is a choice, the current situation > does not seems pleasant to you, it's not really for me either. > > Daniel > > -- > Daniel Veillard | Red Hat Desktop team http://redhat.com/ > veillard@xxxxxxxxxx | libxml GNOME XML XSLT toolkit http://xmlsoft.org/ > http://veillard.com/ | Rpmfind RPM search engine http://rpmfind.net/ > -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
