Re: F36 Change: Enable fs-verity in RPM (System-Wide Change proposal)

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On Fri, 3 Dec 2021 at 17:09, Richard W.M. Jones <rjones@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> On Fri, Dec 03, 2021 at 06:08:49PM +0000, Davide Cavalca via devel wrote:
> > Broadly speaking, fs-verity makes it possible to ensure that files that
> > were installed via an RPM have not been modified. It is useful in
> > environments where an attacker might be able to modify system files
> > (say, replace /bin/ls with a compromised version) and you want to
> > protect against that. For example, consider an appliance-like system
> > placed in an untrusted location where you may not be able to control
> > who has physical access (this could be a server, but it could also be a
> > kiosk in an internet point or a school). In this scenario, fs-verity
> > can be one of the building blocks to ensure and maintain system trust.
>
> I'm unclear about the threat model - this is an attacker who is
> someone able to overwrite single files (eg. /bin/ls) but cannot turn
> off the fs-verity system as a whole?
>
> Also if RPM can update /bin/ls then surely an attacker who can widely
> compromise system files must also be able to update /bin/ls in the
> same way?
>

Or just pad /usr/bin/rpm with some null characters at the end to break
its signature and also stop updates from happening. [Or the fs-verity
daemon which will report that these problems are occuring. ]





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