On Wed, 2021-12-01 at 14:39 +0100, Lennart Poettering wrote: > On Di, 30.11.21 15:57, Adam Williamson (adamwill@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx) > wrote: > > > On Tue, 2021-11-30 at 22:39 +0000, Sérgio Basto wrote: > > > On Tue, 2021-11-30 at 16:03 -0500, Matthew Miller wrote: > > > > On Tue, Nov 30, 2021 at 11:13:19AM +0000, Sérgio Basto wrote: > > > > > I don't use sudo , and I'm against the use of sudo , Fedora > > > > > tradition > > > > > do things as root . > > > > > > > > I hope we don't! Doing things with least required privilege is > > > > an > > > > important > > > > security principle, one which was actually pioneered here with > > > > the > > > > usermode/consolehelper tools and then policykit and dbus > > > > helpers for > > > > GUI > > > > applications. And we've been putting people in `wheel` by > > > > default and > > > > configuring sudo in the corresponding way since... F15, I > > > > think. > > > > > > yes , I mean be administrator with sudo (more than like in > > > Debian, is > > > like in Ubuntu) and do commands like `sudo dnf` I guess . > > > As subject says "Users are administrators" and use sudo to > > > execute all > > > kind of administration, I prefer do `su -` and execute the > > > commands, > > > that what I meant by "I don't use sudo" . > > > > You know you can just do "sudo su" if you prefer that style, right? > > So you transition to root one way, and then transition again to root > from there? What's the point of that? We must go deeper? > > "sudo -s" is what you are looking for: one transition only, and you > get a shell. I usually use "sudo -i" > Lennart > > -- > Lennart Poettering, Berlin > _______________________________________________ > devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Fedora Code of Conduct: > https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ > List Guidelines: > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > List Archives: > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: > https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure -- Sérgio M. B. _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure