Re: F36 Change: Users are administrators by default in the installer GUI. (Self-Contained Change proposal)

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On Wed, 2021-12-01 at 14:39 +0100, Lennart Poettering wrote:
> On Di, 30.11.21 15:57, Adam Williamson (adamwill@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx)
> wrote:
> 
> > On Tue, 2021-11-30 at 22:39 +0000, Sérgio Basto wrote:
> > > On Tue, 2021-11-30 at 16:03 -0500, Matthew Miller wrote:
> > > > On Tue, Nov 30, 2021 at 11:13:19AM +0000, Sérgio Basto wrote:
> > > > > I don't use sudo , and I'm against the use of sudo  , Fedora
> > > > > tradition
> > > > > do things as root .
> > > > 
> > > > I hope we don't! Doing things with least required privilege is
> > > > an
> > > > important
> > > > security principle, one which was actually pioneered here with
> > > > the
> > > > usermode/consolehelper tools and then policykit and dbus
> > > > helpers for
> > > > GUI
> > > > applications. And we've been putting people in `wheel` by
> > > > default and
> > > > configuring sudo in the corresponding way since... F15, I
> > > > think.
> > > 
> > > yes , I mean be administrator with sudo (more than like in
> > > Debian, is
> > > like in Ubuntu) and do commands like `sudo dnf` I guess  .
> > > As subject says "Users are administrators" and use sudo to
> > > execute all
> > > kind of administration, I prefer do `su -` and execute the
> > > commands,
> > > that what I meant by "I don't use sudo" .
> > 
> > You know you can just do "sudo su" if you prefer that style, right?
> 
> So you transition to root one way, and then transition again to root
> from there? What's the point of that? We must go deeper?
> 
> "sudo -s" is what you are looking for: one transition only, and you
> get a shell.

I usually use "sudo -i" 


> Lennart
> 
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