On Tue, 30 Nov 2021 12:49:24 +0100 Vít Ondruch <vondruch@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > I think it would be more constructive if you enumerated pros/cons of > sudo to support your argument then the tradition. Not the original poster, but I find that I like the separation of roles into two. When I do things as root, I mentally know that they can have very severe consequences, so I have a different mindset, a more vigilant mindset. I measure three times and cut once. In fact, I do things as root only in a single virtual console (usually), so when I go there, I know I'm someone different. Also, because of long usage, these are habits that are familiar and any change means I have to develop new habits, and while I am developing those habits, I will inevitably make mistakes. If I continue doing things the way I normally do, I won't make those mistakes, so they are unnecessary mistakes. I presume that the root account isn't going away, so it isn't a big deal. I'll just modify it after install to fit my work flow. Security isn't a huge issue because I have no internet facing services active, so people hacking root remotely is only possible through the browser, and locally installed malware (I think). I see this as just another small inconvenience for experienced users in order to cater to all those 'new users'. They do pile up, though. I have all kinds of notes about how to 'correct' them on install. I imagine this happens to everyone who joins Fedora, as the changes accumulate, and they get left behind in their way of doing things. Or maybe other people don't create routines to simplify their user experience, and so never experience this. _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure