On Mon, Nov 15, 2021 at 02:15:49PM -0500, Ben Cotton wrote: > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/RetireARMv7 > > == Owner == > * Name: [[User:pbrobinson| Peter Robinson]] > * Email: <pbrobinson@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > == Detailed Description == > > The ARMv7 arm architecture was the second variant of the arm > architecture that Fedora has supported, the first was ARMv5, the third > is aarch64. The proposal is to retire ARMv7 as part of the Fedora 37 > release. This will allow ARMv7/armhfp to be supported until the Fedora > 36 end of life in around June 2023. > > Overall arm32 is generally waning with generally few new ARMv7 devices > added to Fedora in recent releases. To add to that a number of newer > Fedora features designed to improve speed and security of the Fedora > release are causing 32 bit architectures in general primarily due to "issues" or "problems" seems to be missing in this sentence. > the process memory limit when linking large applications. The > ARMv7/armhfp is the last fully supported 32 bit architecture, we still > currently build i686 packages, but it's not shipped as artefacts. "it's" → "they are"? > == User Experience == > Any current users of Fedora on ARMv7 devices won't be able to upgrade > to Fedora 37, they will have to stay on Fedora 36 until it's EOL. Please add "and will have to retire the hardware or move to a different distribution afterwards". Explicit is good. > == Release Notes == > > Fedora Linux 37 with the ARMv7 architecture is retired into the > sunset. There will definitely be celebrations, there will likely be > some that shed some tears! Overall for the maintainers it will likely > be seen as a net win, for the few, generally shrinking, users it's > probably a net loss but they can probably just go and buy a Raspberry > Pi Zero 2W for US$15. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Based on the countme graphs that mattdm has been showing, the fraction on arm32 systems is very very small. And arm32 has been a drag on maintainer resources, with the slow builds and timeouts. Dropping the arch will not be without some pain for the people using those boards, but I think it's the right thing to do for the distro. And the whole thing will happen more then a year from now, and by that time the number of those arm32 boards will be even lower. Zbyszek _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure