Stephen John Smoogen <smooge@xxxxxxxxx> writes: > On Mon, 8 Nov 2021 at 04:32, Michael Schroeder <mls@xxxxxxx> wrote: >> >> On Sat, Nov 06, 2021 at 07:43:02AM -0000, Daniel Alley wrote: >> > Another issue - which is not per-se a security issue but it's still a problem - is that deltarpm uses md5 checksums pervasively. They're everywhere. And it uses its own implementation of md5 which doesn't respect FIPS, so even when the user has *explicitly* configured their system to not use md5 for anything security-relevant, libdeltarpm won't know or care. >> >> They are used as a consistency check, it might as well use crc32. >> So I don't see why FIPS is a concern for you. >> > > In order to get the overall system to be FIPS (and equivalent EU/RU/CN > ones) certified all the implementations of various functions have to > be audited and reviewed. Some must be able to be turned off no matter > what. It doesn't matter if 99 of the 100 versions of md5um are only > for consistency, they must be able to be turned off/not used and not > affect the system. I don't think that's quite accuroate. If the crypto primitive isn't being used for security, then FIPS isn't interested - FIPS is only certifying the cryptography used, and this isn't it. (It's non-FIPS relevant.) This leads to a very common workaround for legacy cryptosystems of tunneling the "bad" crypto in something else: one example is interacting with RC4 and NTLM, where they're still used but over a tunnel (TLS, VPN, etc.) that doesn't expose them. Be well, --Robbie
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