Re: F36 Change: Package information on ELF objects (System-Wide Change proposal)

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Lennart Poettering wrote:
> For one moment consider the life of the people who provide you with
> the software you run: coredumps become infinitely more useful if you
> can quickly derive which package they come from.

IMHO, core dumps should not even be enabled by default to begin with. They 
are typically just a useless waste of disk space. Uploading them is a bad 
idea because they are huge and can contain sensitive personal information.

What you SHOULD upload is a backtrace with debugging information, and a 
decent crash handler should simply offer to install the -debuginfo packages. 
(DrKonqi can do that, though that feature is reported elsewhere in this 
thread to be broken on Fedora, which, as I explained there, would be a 
distribution packaging bug and not DrKonqi's fault.)

And me mentioning "crash handler" and "no core dumps" together is not a 
mistake. A well-designed crash handler does NOT operate on core dumps, but 
on live processes. This implies that it should be triggered by a signal 
handler within the executable, ideally shipped by the upstream so that it 
reports the crashes directly upstream. (This is how KCrash and DrKonqi work. 
But also, e.g., Google Breakpad.)

        Kevin Kofler
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