Re: libcurl-minimal

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Hi Zbyszek,

On Thursday, October 14, 2021 11:52:59 AM CEST Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote:
> Hi Kamil and everyone,
> 
> what is the plan with introduction of libcurl-minimal in Fedora?

I proposed to use libcurl-minimal and curl-minimal in minimal base images
half a year ago but there has been no reply so far:

    https://pagure.io/minimization/issue/25

> IIUC, libcurl and libcurl-minimal both have the same Provides, so
> libcurl-minimal can be used to satisfy automatically generated
> dependencies:
> 
> $ dnf repoquery --provides libcurl-minimal      
> libcurl = 7.78.0-3.fc35
> libcurl(x86-32) = 7.78.0-3.fc35
> libcurl(x86-64) = 7.78.0-3.fc35
> libcurl-minimal = 7.78.0-3.fc35
> libcurl-minimal(x86-32) = 7.78.0-3.fc35
> libcurl-minimal(x86-64) = 7.78.0-3.fc35
> libcurl.so.4
> libcurl.so.4()(64bit)
> $ dnf repoquery --provides libcurl        
> libcurl = 7.78.0-3.fc35
> libcurl(x86-32) = 7.78.0-3.fc35
> libcurl(x86-64) = 7.78.0-3.fc35
> libcurl-full = 7.78.0-3.fc35
> libcurl-full(x86-32) = 7.78.0-3.fc35
> libcurl-full(x86-64) = 7.78.0-3.fc35
> libcurl.so.4
> libcurl.so.4()(64bit)
> 
> AFAICS, no other package makes use of libcurl-{full,minimal}.
> In systemd we only care about a narrow subset of protocols, so
> libcurl-minimal is perfect. I considered adding
> Suggests:libcurl-minimal%{_isa} in systemd. IIUC, that'd bias dnf towards
> the installation of libcurl-minimal. But the problem is that if some other
> package expects libcurl in the full version, it'll be disappointed.

If a package (strictly) requires libcurl-full, it should probably have an
explicit dependency for it.  If some packages require implementation of a
specific protocol or feature, we could introduce virtual provides for them,
too, to make the sets of protocols/features in the -minimal variants less
hard-coded.

> Hence my question: how to proceed with pulling in libcurl-minimal where
> it'd be useful? Should I just add Suggests:libcurl-minimal%{_isa} in
> systemd and let the maintainers of other packages add
> Recommends:libcurl-minimal%{_isa} or Requires:libcurl-minimal%{_isa} if
> they need it? What packages would that be? 
> Another option would be do not do any of this at package level, but instead
> pull in libcurl-minimal through comps or kickstart or equivalent when doing
> installations.

This is more a question for users of (lib)curl.  I do not have any strong
opinion on that.

Kamil

> (Sorry if this is all documented somewhere… I looked around, but didn't see
> anything relevant.)
> 
> Zbyszek

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