On Mon, Oct 04, 2021 at 01:03:27PM -0400, Matthew Miller wrote: > Hi all! I just got back from Open Source Summit, several of the talks I > found interesting were on RISC-V -- a high-level one about the > organizational structure, and Drew Fustini's more technical talk. > > In that, he noted that there's a Fedora build *, but it isn't an official > Fedora arch. As I understand it, the major infrastructure blocker is simply > that there isn't server-class hardware (let alone hardware that will build > fast enough that it isn't a frustrating bottleneck). The hardware situation is actually not terrible now (albeit still very expensive). HiFive Unmatched is a very solid platform that supports mini ITX, a decent amount of RAM, M.2 SSD, AMD Radeon GPU. You can build a reasonable desktop-style machine with one of the boards. For servers there are several missing components: - Any kind of BMC or remote management. You can add a Raspberry Pi-based KVM hat (assuming you're happy with that incongruity) - UEFI, although it's coming and u-boot works OK. Qemu also works very well if you don't want or more likely can't afford the hardware. > So, one question is: if we used, say, ARM or x86_64 Amazon cloud instances > as builders, could we build fast enough under QEMU emulation to work? We > have a nice early advantage, but if we don't keep moving, we'll lose that. > > But beyond that: What other things might be limits? Are there key bits of > the distro which don't build yet? Is there a big enough risc-v team to > respond to arch-specific build failures? And, do we have enough people to do > QA around release time? I think we have most things covered. Hardware doesn't support virtualization but Qemu does. Hardware doesn't support various desirable features like the vector extension. Also it'd be nice to have a JDK port. Rich. -- Richard Jones, Virtualization Group, Red Hat http://people.redhat.com/~rjones Read my programming and virtualization blog: http://rwmj.wordpress.com virt-p2v converts physical machines to virtual machines. Boot with a live CD or over the network (PXE) and turn machines into KVM guests. http://libguestfs.org/virt-v2v _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
