On Fri, 2021-10-01 at 17:27 +0000, Tom Seewald wrote: > > This change proposal is the first I've heard of it. But since this is > > being proposed by the author of Pipewire, I kind of assume it's good, > > and I doubt Workstation WG would see the need to get involved unless > > concerns are raised. Does WirePlumber have some sort of deficiencies > > compared to pipewire-session-manager? > > Now that Fedora 35 is in beta and more people are testing it out, it > appears that wireplumber does have some regressions compared to > pipewire-media-session. Namely that audio output switching for flatpak > applications does not work [1], and that desktop system sound volume > (e.g. notification sounds) can not be controlled independently from the > main system volume [2][3]. There is also an issue with changing > bluetooth speaker volume [5]. From developer comments it may not be > likely that all of these problems will be fixed in time for the F35 > release, and the current workaround is to switch back to pipewire- > media-session [4]. > > Clearly this is late in the release cycle, but I am concerned that > wireplumber will provide an overall worse audio experience for F35 > users. So ultimately I am asking if we should re-evaluate whether or > not wireplumber should be the default pipewire session manager for F35. > Are there other features landing in F35 that specifically depend on > wireplumber, and if so do they outweigh the currently known > regressions? > > [1] https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/pipewire/wireplumber/-/issues/59 > [2] https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/pipewire/wireplumber/-/issues/51 > [3] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2003403 > [4] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2003403#c4 > [5] https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/pipewire/wireplumber/-/issues/58 I think you make a good point here. I've filed a ticket asking FESCo to consider whether we should pull the change: https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/2670 -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA IRC: adamw | Twitter: adamw_ha https://www.happyassassin.net _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure