On Thu, 9 Sept 2021 at 12:17, Florian Weimer <fweimer@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > There is a movement towards C.UTF-8 for small images (containers and > VMs). C.UTF-8 has both size and performance improvements over the more > traditional en_US.UTF-8 locale. (The performance improvement is > currently in upstream glibc only, but we plan to bring it to rawhide and > Fedora 35 shortly.) > > However, in a world where glibc-langpack-en (or glibc-all-langpacks) is > not installed on target systems, logging in over SSH does not result in > a viable locale if the client use en_US.UTF-8 (or any other locale > except C or C.UTF-8). This causes a severe degradation in user > experience. It's not only that UTF-8 output does not work, there are > also frequent warning messages from various tools. Some may even refuse > to run completely. > > I tried to bring up this topic on the OpenSSH list to get some > cross-distribution consensus, but the discussion didn't actually go > anywhere: > > Phasing out forwarding of locale settings > <https://lists.mindrot.org/pipermail/openssh-unix-dev/2021-September/039582.html> > > I think Fedora should do this unilaterally, dropping the downstream > additions that enable locale forwarding in both the default client and > server configurations. If we do that, the OpenSSH server will use the > locale as configured with localectl for new interactive and > non-interactive sessions, which is C.UTF-8 in many cases. At least > that's what my testing on Fedora 33 suggests. > > Comments? This would work... if the target system has a properly configured locale, which is not the case many times. E.g., [1] is still unresolved. [1] https://github.com/CentOS/sig-cloud-instance-images/issues/154 -- Iñaki Úcar _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
