Re: f35-backgrounds ready for review

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Good answers

On Thu, 2021-08-26 at 10:51 -0400, Stephen John Smoogen wrote:
> On Thu, 26 Aug 2021 at 10:03, Stephen Snow <s40w5s@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > 
> > From my user POV,
> > I never understood why backgrounds were versioned specific to the
> > release number of Fedora Linux in the first place. I mean, is it
> > actually a separate repo each time? Wouldn't it make sense to just
> > call
> > it backgrounds?
> > 
> 
> 1. we have 20+ years of history of theming desktops to a set of
> packages. Size of downloads were usually kept small for a very long
> time because downloading megabytes of images for backgrounds over
> even
> an 1.4 MB DSL was slow.
> 2. In the Red Hat Linux days, you might be using fvwm2 in one
> release,
> enlightenment in another and sawmill in a third. Each one would need
> to tweak things for that window manager.
> 3. While we had moved away from this by early Fedora GNOME2, we had
> still release names which themed the desktop. Combine that with 1 and
> you have a want for smaller downloads of just a specific release
> which
> you could cherry pick by hand if you wanted an old one. [The blue Sun
> one is my favorite still...]
> 4. When we dropped release names and could allow larger download
> sizes, you end up dealing with community dynamics which were buried
> before as 1,2,3 trumped them. Some people really really hate some
> backgrounds.. they don't want them on their system at all. Other
> people love certain ones. Others want to keep old ones but then start
> asking for updates so that they look nice on their hidef monitors
> [Hello could someone update Blue Sun... ]
> 5. Finally you have artist dynamics which match up with people
> dynamics where they want to focus on a set of deliverables and not be
> asked to update old images constantly (and you do have to tweak
> them..
> monitor colour depth, size, and other things over time have made
> older
> images look bad unless you tweak the images.)
> 
> 
> > Just asking
> > 
> > Stephen
> > 
> > On Thu, 2021-08-26 at 09:23 -0400, Matthew Miller wrote:
> > > On Thu, Aug 26, 2021 at 08:40:49AM -0400, Link Dupont wrote:
> > > > * fedora-backgrounds/f34 => fedora-backgrounds-34-1.fc34
> > > > * fedora-backgrounds/f35 => fedora-backgrounds-35-1.fc35
> > > > * fedora-backgrounds/f35 => fedora-backgrounds-35-2.fc35
> > > > But I must be missing something; this seems like its way too
> > > > simple
> > > > a solution.
> > > 
> > > Well, the current solution -- or having subpackages -- lets you
> > > install old
> > > wallpaper on new systems. Since a lot of the old wallpaper is
> > > _awesome_,
> > > that's desirable.
> > > 
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> -- 
> Stephen J Smoogen.
> I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Flame wars in
> sci.astro.orion. I have seen SPAM filters overload because of
> Godwin's
> Law. All those moments will be lost in time... like posts on a BBS...
> time to shutdown -h now.
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