I'd also like to plug Jakub's new sponsor page: https://docs.pagure.org/fedora-sponsors/all There you can find all currently active sponsors by language, interest, etc. Cheers, Dan On August 12, 2021 7:29:10 AM UTC, Felix Schwarz <fschwarz@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >Hi Stephen, > >thank you for your interest in contributing to Fedora. I can totally understand >that the current policies may seem overwhelming so that becoming a packager >might be seen as some kind of "elite" status. >I think I would feel the same way if I didn't become a packager ~10 years ago. > >However I would like to emphasize Ben's point: >> I think becoming a packager is not as complicated as you’ve written. To >> become a packager, you must convince a packager sponsor to sponsor you. >> That’s all; there is no rule about how to do the convincing. > >Maybe you do 1-2 package updates or fixes (pull request via >src.fedoraproject.org) and check the Fedora wiki pages for a list of sponsors. >Try contacting some of them directly after you verified they are still active >(mailing list/src.fedoraproject.org). Also it helps usually if these sponsors >are interested in the languages/tech stack which you tried to improve. > >That being said: Java in Fedora is one of the hardest areas to tackle. Several >"high profile" packagers had to give up on that task (despite heroic efforts) >because it is just too much for one person (or a small team). > >Part of the problem is that the Java upstream "culture" does not matches the >processes of a traditional Linux distribution like Fedora. Lots of bundled >dependencies, "secret" build processes and on top a huge number of small packages. > >I can understand that "keeping Eclipse in Fedora" is a worthy goal for sure but >really a lot of work. Other areas like Python packaging are much easier as >applications tend to be smaller and bundling is less common in the Python world. >(Also great efforts by our Python team!) > > >One of the things I'd be interested in is "reprocible builds" which I think >might be easier to contribute. While there is a lot of infrastructure to build >(= a lot of work) you can also just fix one package at a time (probably with a >few upstream commits). Even if you stop contributing to Fedora after some months >or years you advanced the state of Fedora/Linux anyway. > >Felix >_______________________________________________ >devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ >List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines >List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure