On Wed, 2021-08-11 at 14:20 +0200, Emmanuel Seyman wrote: > * Stephen Snow [11/08/2021 11:37] : > > > > I feel the frustration you are expressing, and would like to help, > > nut > > apparently I don't meet the Fedora Packaging standards. > > I'm curious as to what happened... Not sure what happened really, I had asked via this email list a few times over the past to become a package maintainer of a couple of orphaned java related packages, and got no response. I couldn't use the take button as it noted I didn't have the rights to do it (still that way on Pagure for me). > > > Even tried the review route, which is also beset with arbitrary > > obstacles. > Wasn't able to download the build via the link provided. > Again, what happened? Can you point us to those reviews? > > > I will keep trying because that is in my nature, but making joining > > the > > packaging group(s) a bit more open would go a long way to garnering > > more > > packagers IMO. > > What changes to the process would you like to see made? > Please see my repsonse to Vitaly. I think the barrier to getting into this should be far lower as regarding the following ... -New contributor asks for sponsorship, someone able to gives it -new contributor is now a packager and can "take" any orphaned package -new contributor fails as packager after one release cycle, times out for one more release cycle before allowed to try to contribute again. -or new contributor does well, with handholding, and continues the learning process - or they do great, and need no handholding, and take on more work load readily I really would like to point to how easy it is to become an editor of Fedora Magazine as an example of the ease with which contributors should be onboarded. As one more note from me on this, the packaging guidelines are an evolved document from years of best practices and failures. Maybe it is time to rethink the guidelines and particularly the entrance criteria to reflect today's Fedora Linux. Regards, Stephen > Emmanuel > _______________________________________________ > devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Fedora Code of Conduct: > https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ > List Guidelines: > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > List Archives: > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: > https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure