Note from the change owner: I'm submitting this as very-very-late change for F35. The implementation in systemd is mostly done, so it'll become available in rawhide pretty soon. To actually make use of the new functionality, individual packages should be changed to use _with_restart in their scriptlets and rebuilt. This will happen over time, and it's fine if each package does that on its own schedule. We still do not have that many user services, and restarting from packaging scriptlets will be possible and appropriate only for some of them. I think it's important to make the functionality available, without trying to use it everywhere immediately. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Restart_User_Service_after_Upgrade == Summary == User services (services running under systemd user instances) will be restarted as part of the rpm upgrade. This mirrors what is done for system services. == Owner == * Name: [[User:Zbyszek| Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek]] * Email: zbyszek AT in.waw.pl == Detailed Description == We have rpm packaging scriptlets to reexecute systemd and restart system services as part of the rpm update transaction. But we didn't have equivalent services for the user manager. With this change, individual system managers will be reexecuted, and various packages can mark their user services to be restarted. The restart of services, similarly to the restart of system services, is done after all packages have been installed, using a transfiletrigger. == Benefit to Fedora == This fixes a long-standing missing feature. We certainly wanted to have this, but the technical implementation is not trivial, because we need to (safely and robustly) reach from the a privileged context into unprivileged user manager instances. Such functionality has been added in systemd, so finally we are able to do this in a fairly clean manner. User services are becoming more and more important. In particular, we want to be able to restart services such as `pipewire.service` during upgrades, without requiring a restart of the machine for the upgrade to take effect. Systemd only provides the general functionality. Package maintainers will need to mark their services for restart using `%systemd_postun_with_restart` if appropriate. == Scope == * Proposal owners: ** implement appropriate functionality (https://github.com/systemd/systemd/pull/17967, https://github.com/systemd/systemd/pull/20157, https://github.com/systemd/systemd/pull/20276, https://github.com/systemd/systemd/pull/20334) ** make a pull request to adjust the packaging guidelines (https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/packaging-guidelines/Scriptlets/#_scriptlets) * Other developers: ** Switch from `%systemd_user_postun` to `%systemd_user_postun_with_restart` if appropriate. ** Make sure that their user services behave properly during restart. * Release engineering: [https://pagure.io/releng/issues #Releng issue number] * Policies and guidelines: N/A (not needed for this Change, all the relevant policies were already in place, but the implementation was missing) * Trademark approval: N/A (not needed for this Change) * Alignment with Objectives: no == Upgrade/compatibility impact == This makes upgrades better in general. Various updates can take effect immediately without requiring a restart. There should be no noticeable effect on upgrades, barring bugs. == How To Test == Upgrade packages with user services that should be restarted. Look at logs or otherwise verify that the new version is running. == User Experience == Updates of user services take effect immediately (if so configured in the providing packages). == Dependencies == None. == Contingency Plan == Status quo is that various services are not restarted. Actually I don't expect this to be fully implemented at any point in time. If some service need to not be restarted, e.g. because the restart does not work, change `%systemd_user_postun_with_restart` to `%systemd_user_postun` and rebuild the package. If the whole system is broken, the command that actually does the restart in the systemd transfiletrigger can be disabled. * Contingency deadline: any time * Blocks release? No. == Documentation == https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/packaging-guidelines/Scriptlets/#_scriptlets (TBD) -- Ben Cotton He / Him / His Fedora Program Manager Red Hat TZ=America/Indiana/Indianapolis _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
