On Wed, Jul 01, 2020 at 12:49:17AM +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote: > Jóhann B. Guðmundsson wrote: > > Given Hans proposal [1] introduced systemd/grub2/Gnome upstream changes > > it beg the question if now would not be the time to stop supporting > > booting in legacy bios mode and move to uefi only supported boot which > > has been available on any common intel based x86 platform since atleast > > 2005. > > No, it would not. > > It would mean desupporting a wide range of existing hardware and some VM > environments (even with QEMU/KVM, I found the SeaBIOS legacy BIOS to be much > less quirky than the OVMF UEFI implementation, and other VM environments > might not support UEFI at all, including older QEMU versions that may still > be in use as hosts for modern Fedora guests). And for what gain? Also SeaBIOS boot is much faster than OVMF, and that matters in many cases (libguestfs for one). Rich. > I do not think switching from GRUB-EFI to systemd-boot as you propose would > be of any benefit for UEFI users. (It would actually mean fewer features for > no tangible benefit.) Hence, we are dealing with GRUB in both enviroments. > So I do not see the maintenance burden of continued BIOS support, also > considering that, in my experience, the environment that keeps causing > problems is actually UEFI, not BIOS. > > > This post is just to gather feed back why Fedora should still continue > > to support legacy BIOS boot as opposed to stop supporting it and > > potentially drop grub2 and use sd-boot instead. > > Fedora should still continue to support legacy BIOS boot. > > Kevin Kofler > _______________________________________________ > devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ > List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx -- Richard Jones, Virtualization Group, Red Hat http://people.redhat.com/~rjones Read my programming and virtualization blog: http://rwmj.wordpress.com virt-top is 'top' for virtual machines. Tiny program with many powerful monitoring features, net stats, disk stats, logging, etc. http://people.redhat.com/~rjones/virt-top _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure