Re: Firefox crippling

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Enrico Scholz wrote:
alan@xxxxxxxxxx (Alan Cox) writes:


On Sun, Jun 05, 2005 at 12:30:14PM +0200, Enrico Scholz wrote:

why they could not be patched into Ooffice; RH is crippl^Wpatching other
programs (e.g. firefox) already, so Ooffice could become a little bit

Actually firefox support for unixlike keybindings is something from
the Firefox community rather than RH as I understand it.


The broken (windoze-like) keybindings (which appear suddenly and without
prior confirmation although formerly the Unix like keybindings were
active) are probably caused by a Gnome2 misbehavior.

This is controlled by GNOME, actually. If you want the old bindings, there is a setting you can add to your rc file which I don't remember off the top of my head.


The firefox crippling is the result of %patch25-29 in the src.rpm: it
removes the functionality which allows to update extensions with
potential security leaks, and it replaces the nice looking default
icons with butt-ugly icons from a Gnome2 theme.

Installing third party software, which includes Firefox extensions is always at your own risk.


There exists a better patch for the first issue (which disables only
the capability to upgrade the application but still allows to update
extensions) but it is silently ignored by the firefox maintainer.

Better in whose eyes? I've already vocalized that upstream doesn't want those patches in our tree. There is a plan to get this done right. It's not done just yet. It missed the FC4 final cutoff but as soon as the proper fix gets done, it will be included as an update if possible.


Regarding the ugly icons, I do not see how this change can be justified.
The new icons are objectively ugly, the default firefox icons are much nicer
and there are now some missing icons.

Thanks for the comments. Some share your opinion, some don't. I have had many positive comments about them. And yes there have been a few complaints. Much like some people prefer Firefox, some prefer Epiphany. Some prefer GNOME, some prefer KDE. Some prefer to troll, some don't.


So it seems that these icon patches
are only applied to satisfy some brainless Gnome2 ideas about consistent
lookout of applications (which might have different functionality and can
never have the same lookout therefore).

Hey, be fair.  They are my brainless ideas, too.


Based on the discussion regarding the "Firefox" branding, I do not see
how the FC4 firefox can be stilled named "Firefox" as it is destroys the
reputation of the project.

By getting the patches we use approved by upstream, as I make sure to do. It's not really rocket science.

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