On Mon, Jun 06, 2005 at 10:08:48AM +0200, Arjan van de Ven wrote: > I guess it comes down to with what you mean with "control". I'm not a > lawyer, but control means to me "have impact on the result". The goal is > that the binary building process is fully reproducable (see earlier > parts of the license about the rationale). All the parts that impact the > results are included in the src.rpm (with some global settings from > redhat-rpm-config which is also shipped). The RH buildsystem actually > calls rpmbuild to build the binary, all it does on top of that is some > queueing. Queueing does not impact the outcome of the build in any way. Although I agree with most of your comments, two remarks: - There seem to be a few settings that are different from redhat-rpm-config: see my thread started with https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2005-February/msg00523.html about rebuilding pango c.s. that was never really answered... OK, I can imagine what settings it needs, and our local RHEL-rebuild environment has implemented that ;-), but that's actually a bit of reverse engineering. At least in FC3 (didn't check FC4t* yet) this was still the issue. - Except from the build environment software itself, there's always "all the software on the build host" that may influence a build (more specifically "configure"). This has no direct relation to releasing the build environment software, although that software may control it, but with this I want to say you'll never be 100% sure to exactly match the original environment. This is also not required by the GPL, IMHO, as it can be brought down to even HW/BIOS issues, when you look at it from an academical point of view. For this discussion it's much more interesting to see how vendors of proprietary software/equipment with GPL stuff included/embedded deal with this. There's much more to win in that area, than blaming RH for not releasing some internal tools: see also <http://gpl-violations.org/>. -- -- Jos Vos <jos@xxxxxx> -- X/OS Experts in Open Systems BV | Phone: +31 20 6938364 -- Amsterdam, The Netherlands | Fax: +31 20 6948204 -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
