On Wed, May 19, 2021, at 7:54 AM, Neal Gompa wrote: > > It's not like making changes and breaking upgrades is acceptable in > Fedora Linux either. It's just that the Fedora CoreOS WG has not > participated in the main development process and rolled back changes > instead of adapting to them, which has frustrated pretty much > everyone. The containers team in particular was extremely unhappy to > find out cgroup v1 was still used in FCOS. This was extensively discussed before: https://github.com/coreos/fedora-coreos-tracker/issues/373 And has been since multiple times. I don't think rehashing it here is useful. Members from the github.com/containers team were definitely aware. The bottom line is FCOS includes docker by default because Container Linux did and for other reasons. That's different from other editions. > I was pretty cheesed off > when I discovered the sqlite rpmdb feature was rolled back in FCOS. This one however was a great example of both teams (rpm team and rpm-ostree team) being unaware of the need to coordinate here. The design for the migration that landed in rpm upstream fundamentally clashes with rpm-ostree's transactional model. But this one is also now fixed in Fedora 34. We're still dealing with further fallout from this in e.g. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1938928 though because the FCOS team keeps our tooling and code tightly bound to RHCOS (RHEL8). _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure