On Mon, 26 Apr 2021 at 20:20, Fabio Valentini <decathorpe@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > Hi everybody, > > Long story short, I can no longer in good conscience be the primary > maintainer of (most) Java packages in Fedora. I am not using any of > them, I don't like Java or any other languages targeting the JVM, and > don't get me started on the horrid Java ecosystem. Recently I've been > spending 40-60 hours per week at my desk, and I just don't have the > capacity to feel guilty for not taking care of those packages any > longer. > > New versions and even security issues have been piling up for months > (just look at the SIG's taiga board). Other people tried to step up > for the "new" Java SIG (@java-maint-sig), but other than myself, > nobody has been triaging new bugs in Java packages. Java package > maintainers from Red Hat have been exceptionally unhelpful, and have > not substantially contributed to Java packages in Fedora in years. > Even the Modules that were heralded as "the solution" have stagnated. > On the other hand, Mat Booth and two members of the DogTag PKI team > have been really helpful, but Mat is busy fighting the Eclipse > dumpster fire most of the time, and the other two have since both left > Red Hat for greener pastures. And since I see no way for the situation > to improve, there's only one honest thing left that I can do: > > I will orphan all Java packages I am the main admin of, later today. > > Since this is the majority of remaining Java software in Fedora (~180 > packages), I expect at a decent amount of dependent packages will be > affected. However, given the utter lack of Java package maintainers > and the pitiful state of the overall language ecosystem, I would > strongly urge affected maintainers to drop dependencies on Java, if at > all possible. > > Maybe other members of the java-maint-sig will pick up the orphaned > packages, if they're still here. Or maybe it's finally time to let > Java packages die. Nobody seems to care either way. > > Fabio > _______________________________________________ > devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ > List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure I want to echo everyone else's sentiments and give my thanks for being the one to step into Java packaging when you did. I wish I had more time to donate and honestly I thought modularity would help with that too, but it turned out to be a fools' errand and sapped way too much of my time and motivation. I'm sorry I couldn't help out more, and wish you well in your other endeavours. -- Mat Booth http://fedoraproject.org/get-fedora _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
