Re: The Death of Java (packages)

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On Mon, 2021-04-26 at 21:19 +0200, Fabio Valentini wrote:
> Hi everybody,
> 
> Long story short, I can no longer in good conscience be the primary
> maintainer of (most) Java packages in Fedora. I am not using any of
> them, I don't like Java or any other languages targeting the JVM, and
> don't get me started on the horrid Java ecosystem. Recently I've been
> spending 40-60 hours per week at my desk, and I just don't have the
> capacity to feel guilty for not taking care of those packages any
> longer.
> 
> New versions and even security issues have been piling up for months
> (just look at the SIG's taiga board). Other people tried to step up
> for the "new" Java SIG (@java-maint-sig), but other than myself,
> nobody has been triaging new bugs in Java packages. Java package
> maintainers from Red Hat have been exceptionally unhelpful, and have
> not substantially contributed to Java packages in Fedora in years.
> Even the Modules that were heralded as "the solution" have stagnated.
> On the other hand, Mat Booth and two members of the DogTag PKI team
> have been really helpful, but Mat is busy fighting the Eclipse
> dumpster fire most of the time, and the other two have since both
> left
> Red Hat for greener pastures. And since I see no way for the
> situation
> to improve, there's only one honest thing left that I can do:
> 
> I will orphan all Java packages I am the main admin of, later today.
> 
> Since this is the majority of remaining Java software in Fedora (~180
> packages), I expect at a decent amount of dependent packages will be
> affected. However, given the utter lack of Java package maintainers
> and the pitiful state of the overall language ecosystem, I would
> strongly urge affected maintainers to drop dependencies on Java, if
> at
> all possible.
> 
> Maybe other members of the java-maint-sig will pick up the orphaned
> packages, if they're still here. Or maybe it's finally time to let
> Java packages die. Nobody seems to care either way.

you did an amazing work , thank you . 

-- 
Sérgio M. B.
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