[I'm forwarding the mail from Luca who is not subscribed to fedora-devel] On Sat, Apr 10, 2021 at 01:38:31PM +0100, Luca Boccassi wrote: Hello, Cross-posting to the mailing lists of a few relevant projects. After an initial discussion [0], recently we have been working on a new specification [0] to encode rich package-level metadata inside ELF objects, so that it can be included automatically in generated coredump files. The prototype to parse this in systemd-coredump and store the information in systemd-journal is ready for testing and merged upstream. We are now seeking further comments/opinions/suggestions, as we have a few months before the next release and thus there's plenty of time to make incompatible changes to the format and implementation, if required. A proposal to use this by default for all packages built in Fedora 35 has been submitted [1]. The Fedora Wiki and the systemd.io document have more details, but to make a long story short, a new .notes.package section with a JSON payload will be included in ELF objects, encoding various package- build-time information like distro name&version, package name&version, etc. To summarize from the discussion, the main reasons why we believe this is useful are as following: 1) minimal containers: the rpm database is not installed in the containers. The information about build-ids needs to be stored externally, so package name information is not available immediately, but only after offline processing. The new note doesn't depend on the rpm db in any way. 2) handling of a core from a container, where the container and host have different distros 3) self-built and external packages: unless a lot of care is taken to keep access to the debuginfo packages, this information may be lost. The new note is available even if the repository metadata gets lost. Users can easily provide equivalent information in a format that makes sense in their own environment. It should work even when rpms and debs and other formats are mixed, e.g. during container image creation. Other than in Fedora, we are already making the required code changes at Microsoft to use the same format&specification for internally-built binaries, and for tools that parse core files and logs. Tools for RPM and DEB (debhelper) integration are also available [3]. > -- > Kind regards, > Luca Boccassi _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
