On 30/03/2021 16:11, Matthew Miller wrote: > On Tue, Mar 30, 2021 at 01:37:48AM +0200, Daniel Pocock wrote: >> As I noted in the original email, "I will not speculate that this is any >> more than a coincidence". I don't want to make either assumptions or >> accusations, you do a huge amount of work and everybody here understands >> that. > > Oh come on; this is a well-known rhetorical device, and I'm sure you know > that as well. You say that you will not "speculate", but then go ahead and > state the thing that you _would_ speculate, were you to do so, but claim to > not be doing. Of course, that's not actually any different. If you actually > do not want to raise an accusation, the way to do it is to not raise that > accusation. Given we all know that there was a lot of work going on I feel most people here appreciate that it is an unlucky coincidence. I could have been more careful to keep it at that level. > This may sound like I am a bit irked, and I'll explain why: you already sent > me a private mail with a _different_ accusation, and I responded to you then > that it was not any intentional action at all and likely a side-effect of > the account system update -- which, as Kevin verifies, is the case. So you > _really_ have no reason for this speculation. I'm genuinely sorry that all this negativity is going around and it has been reflected in the email about this site. I don't think the negativity starts with any one person on either side. The solution often involves investing in the organization and that is a lot harder when everybody is losing contact with each other due to the pandemic. > In any case, please make sure this site follows these trademark guidelines: > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Legal:Trademark_guidelines#Community_sites_and_accounts Thanks for pointing that out, I'll do a basic template some time in the next few days. Regards, Daniel _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
