On Thu, 2021-03-04 at 22:40 +0100, Hans de Goede wrote: > > > Starting from a minimal install with plymouth omitted, adding just > > plymouth itself pulls in 3 packages (plymouth, plymouth-core-libs, > > plymouth-scripts) with an installed size of 621K. Adding plymouth- > > system-theme pulls in 32 packages with an installed size of 24M. So > > putting plymouth-system-theme in @core would substantially inflate the > > size of @core in terms of both number of packages and overall installed > > size. Removing plymouth from @core would not save a lot in terms of > > packages or space. > > > > So, I guess the question here is, what do we do? > > > > 1) Remove plymouth from @core > > 2) Add plymouth-system-theme to @core > > 3) Make Hans/Ray/someone fix the plymouth bug > > 1) clearly gets my vote, not just because I don't have time to work on 3) > but also because to me it seems like the right thing to do. Plymouth is > a boot splash, its goal is to make the boot look pretty / hide all the > scary log messages in use-cases where we want this. The text fallback > splash is not pretty. In general if it shows instead of the graphical > splash the fact that the text fallback shows is considered a bug. Well, you could still argue it's prettier than a wall-o-text boot. And it *does* hide the wall-o-text. > So either the server spin wants a pretty boot and then they should fix the > bug of the text splash showing by installing plymouth-system-theme, or the > server spin does not want a pretty boot and then there should be no > plymouth at all. What if we want something arguably-prettier than wall-o-text, but don't want an extra 32 packages and 24M of storage used up? -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA IRC: adamw | Twitter: adamw_ha https://www.happyassassin.net _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure