Thank you, Vitaly and Fabio! That makes sense, I didn't look on the issue from new user's view. Most people who use vi/vim are aware of the differences and wanted vi/vim just work if the other is not installed, so vi/vim are drop-in replacements for them in this matter of speaking. And Vi is just a Vim compiled more strictly nowadays, so it adds another confusion :) . But speaking technically, they aren't drop-in replacements because of different configuration options. I will drop alternatives usage and use wrappers - then it will work for immutable Fedoras too. On 1/30/21 7:41 PM, Fabio Valentini wrote: > On Sat, Jan 30, 2021 at 7:24 PM Peter Boy <pboy@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> >> >>> Am 30.01.2021 um 17:45 schrieb Vitaly Zaitsev via devel <devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>: >>> >>> On 30.01.2021 16:58, Peter Boy wrote: >>>> But it’s perfectly usable for Fedora Workstation or Server and almost indispensable for some development projects, e.g. Java (and vi/vim for a terminal environment). Why should alternatives not be usable there? Or what is a suitable and adequate replacement? >>> https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/packaging-guidelines/Alternatives/ >> Thanks for the info. Unfortunately, I don’t see a connection to immutable Fedora (it is about drop-in, user configurable, etc). Or do I miss something? > If you read the Packaging Guidelines, they actually explicitly mention > that vi / vim are a bad example for using the alternatives system - > because they're not drop-in replacements. > > Additionally, as far as I know, OSTree based Fedora variants do not > execute any RPM scriptlets, but implement their own handling of e.g. > ldconfig and such things. > And alternatives is definitely not compatible with OSTree - according > to these bug reports, at least Java alternatives are broken - > apparently primarily because OSTree stores configuration in /var > instead of /etc: > > - https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1657367 > - https://github.com/coreos/rpm-ostree/issues/1614 > > > Fabio > _______________________________________________ > devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ > List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx -- Zdenek Dohnal Software Engineer Red Hat Czech - Brno TPB-C
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