Re: dbus-broker and dbus-daemon in the default install

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On Fri, Jan 22, 2021 at 10:48:10AM -0500, Neal Gompa wrote:
> On Fri, Jan 22, 2021 at 10:37 AM Kalev Lember <kalevlember@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> > On Fri, Jan 22, 2021 at 4:31 PM Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek <zbyszek@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >>
> >> Instead the following chain pull in dbus-daemon:
> >>
> >>   gnome-shell → gdm → /usr/bin/dbus-run-session i.e. dbus-daemon.
> >>
> >> dbus-daemon.rpm is not huge, but this does seems like a missed
> >> minimization opportunity. Do we have any plan to drop this package
> >> from the default install? Is dbus-run-session even used?
> >
> >
> > Hi Zbyszek,
> >
> > All I know is that the dep was recently added: https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/gdm/c/bb7bcfdb36e64eaba91a6d5a8c47c4e1ef75d119?branch=master
> >
> > The commit message states "Make sure users have dbus-run-session installed since the greeter depends on it". I have no idea what's missing to migrate away from it :)
> 
> Are there any plans for an equivalent of this program for dbus-broker?
> Best I can tell, there isn't one...

AFAIK, it's just implementing an obsolete concept. The session bus is
started by systemd --user, which is triggered by the pam stack when the user
session is created. So it is generally fair to assume that the session bus
always present. I don't know why gdm still uses the helper.

Zbyszek
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