On Tue, Jan 5, 2021 at 2:40 PM Robbie Harwood <rharwood@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek <zbyszek@xxxxxxxxx> writes: > > > On Tue, Dec 15, 2020 at 03:19:16PM -0500, Ben Cotton wrote: > >> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/golang1.16 > >> > >> == Summary == > >> Rebase of Golang package to upcoming version 1.16 in Fedora 34, > > > > No complaint about the Change, but... > > can we please stop saying "rebase"? > > > > That verb made sense when packaging was about a stack of patches and > > hacks. Nowadays maybe 90% of packages are just the upstream version, > > and another 9% have patches backported from git that will be dropped > > on the update to the next upstream version. Talking about a "rebase" > > is mostly confusing. > > Not really a defense, but this is what we call it internally for RHEL. > So even if we officially change the name, most of us are likely to keep > calling it rebase out of habit. I agree with you, Robbie. It'll hang around and we'll have to deal with it for a long time. However, even internally in RHEL we're starting to see "rebase" be really hard to understand. One team will mean "grab a new tarball that only contains a limited set of bug fixes" and another team will mean "grab an entirely new major version release that breaks ABI and on-disk format". We should honestly look at how to articulate these kinds of things better, both in Fedora and in RHEL. "Rebase" is quickly becoming meaningless. josh > (And it does make sense for RHEL where backporting more patches is the > norm. I'm uncomfortable with the assertion that ~99% of all packages > have no downstream-only packages, but that might just be my bias in the > opposite direction, since I maintain a couple that do.) > > Thanks, > --Robbie > _______________________________________________ > devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ > List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
