søn, 22.05.2005 kl. 21.59 skrev Jeff Spaleta: > On 5/22/05, Kyrre Ness Sjobak <kyrre@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >- find the correct package > thats a deceptively simple statement and hides the complexity of > building a way to browse through packages so that novice users can > find the 'correct' package among a technically diverse and yet > generally similar set of software. Its not enough to browse by > software name... since most project names do not connote functional or > technical specfics. You certaintly can't expect 'novice' users to > know which web browser is the 'correct' browser for them simply by > looking package names. > > And its not enough to browse by general functionality.. because the > 'correct' software for any role can be situationally dependant on what > other people already have installed. Or it could be they are looking > for a very specific feature instead of an easily described broad > function. > And lets not forget about license...the 'correct' package could very > well be a BSD licensed application instead of a GPL licensed one. > > That is the job of a well-written web portal. > > - See the license (possibly the GPL), accept it > > And.... what if that one application needs several dependancies...each > dependancy with a different license? Shall we loop over all > dependancies as well.. a license review pane for each and every > dependancy package? > Auch. That i did not think about. But surely, some solution could be found. > > Which method would you describe to a newbie? > I don't think what you describe is inherently friendlier. More > visual...but not friendlier. > But more intuitive. Almost every user "discovers" up2date immediatly, and try to use that. They do not discover yum before someone points them to it. > I personally think software installation/removal interface aimed at > novice user/admins should mimic the menu structure novice users will > be interacting with on a daily basis. Instead of thinking about > 'packages' at all.. you build an interface that leads novice > user/admins to interact with application menu items. Someone wants to > install an application they fire up an install software program that > presents the user/admin with the full applications menu showing all > available applications just like they would appear in the gnome menu > once installed. > > You can extend this with a useful tooltip that gives a brief summary > of the package. You can extend this further and provided a properties > item in a right click menu to see items like license or vendor. > Packages without menu items. simply don't show up in this novice > oriented tool.. reducing confusion. All is not lost, since you could > easily extend the menu metaphor by providing an Install dialog similar > to the Run application dialog for more advanced user/admins who know > which packagenames they want to install. > > Also a good idea - but what about libs, such as gstreamer-mp3? BTW. doesn't Ubuntu use an interface similar to this one? Kyrre -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
