On Sun, Dec 27, 2020 at 07:44:57PM +0100, clime wrote: > I think we can simply parse server-side access logs to count package > downloads, no? We can for our primary server, but most people get updates from mirrors which we don't run directly. The central mirrorlist (from which I get the dnf count data) just redirects people to those mirrors. Even if we could get package download counts from the mirrors, they're heavily skewed by: * public mirrors pulling the whole thing * people pulling the whole thing for a private mirror * ci and build systems (like, running mock) * mysterious bots downloading stuff for whatever reason * proxies and caching and probably more. Popcon and smolt are better because it's actual individual system data. On the other than, they're worse as mentioned because opt-in doesn't give a realistic picture. -- Matthew Miller <mattdm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Fedora Project Leader _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx