Re: Stale proven packagers

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On Tue, Dec 22, 2020 at 12:39:56PM -0800, Adam Williamson wrote:
> A propos of some discussion of the Solarwinds news, it occurred to me
> to check how many proven packager accounts there are in FAS. There are
> 251, which seems like a lot. Then it occurred to me to check how many
> of them are inactive, so I wrote a little script:

...snip...

> 
> that's 90 of the 251 who still have provenpackager privileges, but
> haven't run any kind of Koji build since at least 2019-01-01 (if you
> check, it turns out many of them haven't run a build since long before
> then). Many of them, to my knowledge, don't work on Fedora at all any
> more and haven't for years. At least one of them, to my and everyone
> else's knowledge, is sadly dead and has been for some time. One account
> - it's Greg Dekoenigsberg - somehow is in the FAS pp group but doesn't
> exist in koji (any more?)

Do note that some of these people have accounts and group memebership,
but their accounts in fas are disabled/inactive. 

> Perhaps we need a process for cleaning up membership of this extremely
> powerful group? If the FAS password of *any one* of those user accounts
> were somehow compromised (or if just one of them decided they had a
> grudge against Fedora now and were going to have some fun), the results
> could be...unfortunate.

Oh look, flashback 13 years: 

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:JesseKeating/AutomatedMIAProposal?rd=JesseKeating/AutomatedMIAProposal

Anyhow, I was in favor of something then, but it got shouted down, and I
am still in favor now of some kind of checkin process. I think it should
be light weight tho... always being bothered is bad. On the other hand
it's hard to know how to notify people. If you send email once a week
for 4 weeks and get no answer does that mean they are missing? Or that
your email is going to the spam folder? Or that they are on a long
vacation not checking email? It's hard to balance. 

kevin

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