Re: gpg-agents all over the place

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Marius Schwarz writes:

Hi,

I sorry to tell you, that gpg-agents are inflating on numbers in Fedora systems:

I miss the days when gpg needed a passphrase it simply prompted a message on standard output, turned off tty echo, and just read the password that I typed in.

But that was too simple, primitive, and bulletproof. I guess that things can't be as simple any more, and the forward march of progress is unstoppable.

The most simple interface I could get working these days is the curses pinentry. And that was no easy task to set up. I had to do some serious googling around, and sifting through the manual pages, to come up with the right set of spells and magic woids and phrases (I'm channeling Bugs Bunny) to make it happen.

it would be more effective, if you give any programm who needs it, the password directly, instead of having useless processes laying around ;)

Nah. That's too simple of a solution.

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1895012

Any changes will likely need to originate upstream; I'll be surprised if there'll be any Fedora-originated development on this topic.

Systemd opens gpg-agents even for mailserver daemons, which do not need nor know how to use them.

Oh, sure. I had a nagging feeling something was missing, here. systemd, that's it.

No idea what caused this invasion lately, but bugreports about it, get ignored.

The drive to fix this needs to come upstream. But nobody pays attention any more to the simpletons like us, who like to work in a terminal or, heavens forbid, an ssh connection. Or (and I know how this can be shocking to hear) run build scripts. Everyone expects to have pretty windows, menu, dialogs, and animated gophers to join them on their quest to use gpg. Hence, the agent.

Could someone please take a look and fix it, if it's bug.

I would be very happy if someday I can simply run gpg(2) and have it simply prompt me for my password, by default, without me having to fiddle anything, not gpg-agent.conf, not anything else. Alas, I've resigned to those simpler days being just a fond memory.

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