On Fri, Dec 11, 2020 at 11:08 AM Matthew Miller <mattdm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > Right now, when you start Fedora live media to install Workstation or KDE or > etc., you get an ugly text prompt which defaults to doing a media test > (although it's not actually even clear from the highlighting that that's the > default). > > I think since burning spinning optical media is no longer the normal way to > do this, we should drop this and just go straight to booting (unless of > course a key is hit to stop things and enter boot parameters). > > In my experience with USB sticks (and i've probably made over 500 of 'em in > the last few years), the most likely failure modes are like this: > > 1) Doesn't even write properly. > 2) Doesn't boot after you created it. > 3) Fails hard and it's definitely done > 4) Random transient errors It varies quite a bit. Transient or persistent corruption seem fairly common with USB sticks. In particular before failure. I currently have a manufacturer supplied warranty replacement that's returning persistent corruption for a couple of sectors (so far). There are no errors returned by the device at all, it's supremely confident it's handing me back my data. But Btrfs is detecting this corruption. All of the failures I've experienced, the drive goes read-only. Without error. Write a bunch of stuff, no error, read it back, no error but it's the old data. > The test media option doesn't actually help with any of these except maybe > making #3 happen slightly sooner. With #4, it actually means that in some > cases you'd be fine just doing the install and the test fails. I have no data on how often problems are detected. I suspect it does sometimes happen, because I've had it catch corruption. > Let's just go ahead and get people started faster. If so I think it should be the most minimal change, make the non-test menu entry the default. Leave the layout the same. -- Chris Murphy _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
