Re: Fedora 34 Change: Stop Shipping Individual Nodejs Library Packages (Self-Contained)

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On 12/9/20 9:56 PM, Troy Dawson wrote:
On Wed, Dec 9, 2020 at 11:21 AM Miro Hrončok <mhroncok@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

On 12/9/20 7:44 PM, Ben Cotton wrote:
== How To Test ==

* Install all nodejs libraries in Fedora 33.  Try to update to Fedora 34.

What is the plan wrt Obsoletes of the removed packages?

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Miro Hrončok
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We do not plan on obsoleting them.
Obsoleting them has the potential to break third party software.
dnf should also clean things up by seeing that the dependencies of an
upgraded package have gone away.
If dnf misses it, these are libraries, not binaries.  If nothing is
using them, they just take up some disk space.  If a user really wants
to clean them up, those types of users usually have their favorite
ways of doing so.

I worry about this specific case: There are several JS libraries unbundled in python-notebook. Due to RPM/DNF limitations, they can onyl be unbondled if the JS packages are obsoleted:

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1787079#c8

I can definitively make sure the relevant packages are obsoleted by fedora-obsolete-packages but that opens a can of worm, because if only some removed packages are obsoleted, other removed packages will block the upgrade path to Fedora 34/35. And they will need to be obsoleted as well.

I rutinelly spend several hours each release to figure out and fix upgrade path issues by obsoleting packages via fedora-obsolete-packages. I'd like some help with this by the change owners / NodeJS SIG. Can I count on that?

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