On Fri, 2020-12-04 at 16:11 +0100, Marius Schwarz wrote: > Hi, > > as you may have heared, Fedora is now running on Pinephone and other > devices, that need bleeding edge versions to function. > > Status of Fedora Pine as of 15:15 CET > > Cams now working, but app needs rework > Mobile INET working > WIFI working > Touch working > SMS working > GPS working > Calls partly, "calls app" does not connect to pulseaudio. > Headphones ( sort of ) > Mali400 GPU support working ( MPV rulez ) > > and with Gnome(38) instead of Phosh.. no window problems! Big Thanks to > nikhiljha <https://github.com/nikhiljha>and his copr repo. > > O== my request > > In the last 3 days alone several updates ( i.e. bind-libs, gnome-shell > 40~alpha ) caused a lot of bugs and needed to be downgraded directly > from koji, > by first finding & downloading them with wget ( because of the slow wifi > and dependency checks, direct http links work ofcourse ), and later > downgraded with > dnf, which is so to speak, a pain in the ass. Of course, the best way to > handle it would be, if the os compenents came from stable repos, so that > these problems do not happen. But as i said, bleeding edge is needed atm. > > Is it possible to keep at least the last version of a package around in > rawhide repo, to make dnf downgrade work? That would ease a lot of this > pain. > > I know that there is a native koji tool to handle rawhide, but i must > say, that won't work in most cases. Let me explain: > > Pine has announced to open stores in the US and Canada, because of the > huge amount of requests for a pinephone. As it looks, this phone, as > cheap as it compontants are, fills a gap of some kind. Therefor we will > have much more user using it, and (i hope i can help with it) will use > Fedora with Gnome-Shell. > Phosh is more like Android, it has it charm, but tbh I, and people I > showned it to, love they way gnome-shell handles stuff. > > We "may" get them to downgrade stuff with dnf, but that needs to be as > simple as it could. I don't think there's an easy way to do this, because of how we build stuff. The Rawhide and Branched trees are rsynced over top of the previous content from the most recent successful compose, with metadata pre-built at the compose level. The old thing is thrown away and replaced with the new thing, which is a very simple process. If you want to keep old stuff around it suddenly gets a ton more complex, because now you have to keep track of what is "old stuff" and when to get rid of it, and you have to add a step to the process that (re-)generates the repo metadata after the new stuff has been added to the old stuff. Limited downgrading possibilities exist for stable releases because we freeze those and add updates repos alongside the frozen stable release, but that's not how we build development releases. I don't really think it makes sense to do a ton of engineering to support an explicitly non-recommended use case. Rawhide is not for running on your phone. Having said that, there are more efficient ways to do what you're doing. You don't need to download with wget; you can use the 'koji' CLI tool directly (koji download-build --arch=XX --arch=noarch NVR). You can also find the older Rawhide content in older composes, at https://kojipkgs.fedoraproject.org/compose/rawhide/ - you can configure the Everything repo from any of those as a local repo and its content will be available for downgrading. Of course, that server doesn't expect heavy traffic, so if lots of pinephone people start trying to do it at once, it might start choking. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA IRC: adamw | Twitter: adamw_ha https://www.happyassassin.net _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
