On Thu, Dec 03, 2020 at 09:31:43AM +0100, David Kaufmann wrote: > Until now I thought of both as having a very different target audience, > I've never looked at Cloud Base, as I almost completely self-host. > I don't really understand why it should be merged, is there some > document or chat log for that? Possibly, but it's not very long so I'll just summarize. The basics are: When we came up with this split at Flock Charleston in 2013, the idea was to focus as you say on different target audiences. We envisioned the cloud image getting more cloud-specific, and Fedora Server getting a bunch of features like Server Roles which people who wanted a lightweight cloud-focused base wouldn't necessarily care for. Over time, it's evolved so Fedora CoreOS fills the new-way-of-doing-things container-focused world niche, but people still wanted the more-traditional Fedora Cloud Base to build on. Meanwhile, people mostly aren't using the Server Roles in their various attempted incarnations, and are just using it as a base system to build their own local solutions. So, we've ended up with two things which are basically used in the same way, with "where it's deployed" being the main differentiator. It makes more sense to merge them together into one thing that can be deployed in different places. Also, both the Cloud SIG and Server SIG have been under-staffed (with the attention on CoreOS and ... not Server, generally). So, rather than having two groups each with one or two struggling members, it seems better to have a shared group with two or four less-struggling members. :) > Same as above, I'd like to read up on that. I'm not sure what "system > roles" relate to, I've found linux-system-roles.github.io and I know > a big chunk of fedora-infra systems is managed using ansible. Here's a pretty good blog post on thoughts from a few years ago: https://sgallagh.wordpress.com/2016/10/13/fedora-server-expanding-throughout-the-galaxy/ And the System Roles project: https://linux-system-roles.github.io/ and docs for System Roles in RHEL, which nominally this should be the upstream for: https://access.redhat.com/articles/3050101 -- Matthew Miller <mattdm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Fedora Project Leader _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
